Deficit Spending is Not the Answer

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By John T.

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Someone's going to have to pay

America's Fiscal Irresponsibility

Deficit spending is not the answer. I was once excoriated in a comment for one of my articles about deficit spending. I was told that deficit spending is so basic that they teach it in high school economics. Maybe they did, that wouldn’t surprise me considering the same people who are running Washington these days are the same people who are mostly in academia.

The theory behind deficit spending is a flawed theory. Deficit spending entails borrowing money to get out of debt. For the individual this would be like taking out credit card after credit card, living beyond ones mean, and then taking out another credit card to get out of all the debt. Except that it is worse when it comes to the federal government. There is no one that can stop the government from borrowing.

This deficit is taken on from the world market, increasing public debt, private sector net worth, debt service, and interest rates. Short term gains are to be had from temporary deficit spending, but long term deficit spending is disastrous economic policy.

The United States has been living on borrowed credit for too long. President Clinton was the first President to balance the budget in several decades, with the inauguration of Bush that did not last long. Heritage Foundation sums up the deficit spending pretty nicely:

· President Bush expanded the federal budget by a historic $700 billion through 2008. President Obama would add another $1 trillion.

· President Bush began a string of expensive financial bailouts. President Obama is accelerating that course.

· President Bush created a Medicare drug entitlement that will cost an estimated $800 billion in its first decade.President Obama has proposed a $634 billion down payment on a new government health care fund.

· President Bush increased federal education spending 58 percent faster than inflation. President Obama would double it.

· President Bush became the first President to spend 3 percent of GDP on federal antipoverty programs.President Obama has already increased this spending by 20 percent.

· President Bush tilted the income tax burden more toward upper-income taxpayers. President Obama would continue that trend.

· President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public debt through 2008. Setting aside 2009 (for which Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for an additional $2.6 trillion in public debt), President Obama’s budget would add $4.9 trillion in public debt from the beginning of 2010 through 2016.

Deficit Spending Refuted

Long Term Deficit Spending is Not the Answer

Niall Ferguson who is a professor in the Harvard business school had this to say about the current deficit spending:

“The critical point is if your policy says you’re going run a trillion-dollar deficit for the rest of time, you’re riding for a fall…Then it really is goodbye.” A dashing Brit, Ferguson added: “Can I say that, having grown up in a declining empire, I do not recommend it. It’s just not a lot of fun actually—decline.”
Ferguson called for what he called “radical” measures. “I can’t emphasize strongly enough the need for radical fiscal reform to restore the incentives for work and remove the incentives for idleness.”

Obviously long term deficit spending is not the answer.  To put the national debt in perspective, the US national debt as of July 28, 2010 was $12,263,363,023,888.74, or in other words each US citizens share of the debt is $42,947.60.  The National Debt has increased $4.12 billion per day since Sept. 28 2007.  Is this sustainable?  Is this deficit spending worth out?  Is it working?  Will every man women and child be able and willing to pay over $42,000 to pay off the debt?  Where is the job creation?  Where is this growth? 

Under Bush 1.8 million jobs were lost, under Obama 4.4 million jobs were lost.  Under Obama the debt to GDP ratio reached its highest level since WWII, sitting at a posh 62%.

Deficit: Bush years and Obama years
Deficit: Bush years and Obama years

CBO confirms that long term deficit spending is not the answer

So now we come to the report released by the CBO on the 27th of July:

“Over the past few years, U.S. government debt held by the public has grown rapidly—to the point that, compared with the total output of the economy, it is now higher than it has ever been except during the period around World War II. The recent increase in debt has been the result of three sets of factors:

1) an imbalance between federal revenues and spending that predates the recession and the recent turmoil in financial markets,

2) sharply lower revenues and elevated spending that derive directly from those economic conditions,

3) and the costs of various federal policies implemented in response to the conditions.1

Further increases in federal debt relative to the nation’s output almost certainly lie ahead if current policies remain in place. The aging of the population and rising costs for health care will push federal spending, measured as a percentage of GDP, well above the levels experienced in recent decades.

…a growing level of federal debt would also increase the probability of a sudden fiscal crisis, during which investors would lose confidence in the government’s ability to manage its budget,

and the government would thereby lose its ability to borrow at affordable rates.

…By 2020, debt would equal nearly 90 percent of GDP. Debt held by the public would exceed its historical peak of about 110 percent of GDP by 2025 and would reach about 180 percent of GDP in 2035.”

I quoted extensively from that article and highly encourage everyone to take a serious look at the dire warnings given to us by the CBO. The report goes on to detail other countries who have experienced similar conditions as we are experiencing, what it might mean for the US if things don’t change etc.

Long term deficit spending is not the answer, it is the answer of the ignorant. If you want to see long term deficit spending in action look at Greece, look at California, or look at Spain! The real answer is that we as a nation need to tighten our belts and get to work paying off the national debt. We need to make short term sacrifices for long term rewards it is the only way.

Am I right to be outraged concerning our level of national debt, or am I just a simpleton who didn't listen in high school economics?  Please leave comments and let me know what you think.

CBO debt projections
CBO debt projections

School House Rock teaches us about debt

Update

The reports f)or economic growth for this last quarter just came out today (July 30), and it is not good.  The economy grew by only 2.4%.  While it is a good thing that the economy grew, it needs to grow by at least 3% to create jobs, and drive down jobless claims. So much for spending our way out of a recession.

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garynew 21 months ago

Why does Obama keep criticizing Bush when he simply does everything Bush did but on a far bigger scale?

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John T. Hub Author 21 months ago

Agreed! I am not sure why people chose to have their eyes closed to what is going on. It is not going to go away...

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LRCBlogger Level 1 Commenter 21 months ago

In Fairness, almost every single respectable economist said if Obama did not enact a stimulus, it could have created a much worse scenario. Our deficit and budget debt are both a massive challenge that we need to solve asap. According to your same source (THE CBO), Health Care reform will lower the debt by 1.3 or 1.4 trillion over the next 20 years. If you are for lowering the debt/deficit, I would think you have to support HCR if you believe the CBO's numbers are correct.

John, I think you did a good job touching on the real issue which is one of our largest expenses: Medicare. Our lawmakers need to cooperate and start having conversations on our three biggest expenses: 1. Military spending 2. Medicare 3. Social security

These three programs make up 1.5 trillion dollars in spend every year which was the amount of Clinton's entire budget his last year in office (pretty close).

When Obama mentioned cuts to medicare, the GOP jumped down his throat and tried to use it for political gain "he's attacking seniors, etc"

We need the GOP and Dems to step up together and work to make serious changes. Our actual military budget is close to 1 trillion when you factor in all of the different budgets that are affected (Nuclear weapons falls under Dept of Energy Budget but it is military spending).

I'm not saying we should cut soldiers pay or anything like that. I'm saying we should cut wasteful military spending. We have 14 aircraft carrier fleets. The next closest country has 2. We have 40k troops in Germany, 25k in Japan, etc. We are paying for German real estate, eating at German Restaurants, having German mechanics fix our tanks, etc.

The overal budget could easily be cut to 2.5 trillion which would allow us a surplus of 500 billion per year to start paying down the deficit.

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John T. Hub Author 21 months ago

LRCblogger, you make good points. I tried to reassure everyone that deficit spending is not solely a one party issue, both parties are guilty of it.

I appreciate your suggestions though, I hadn't thought about how much it most cost to maintain our bases in foreign countries. If we could come together in a bi-partisan way and reduce this deficit then we won't have to live in a declining empire.

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Drewpen 21 months ago

I am a little more informed about defect spending thank you

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John T. Hub Author 21 months ago

Drewpen I like it, defect spending :D you should coin it! Thanks for the comment

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Springboard Level 5 Commenter 21 months ago

I don't think there is any disputing that Bush was an atypical republican spender. Normally republicans REDUCE government, REDUCE spending, and LOWER taxes. Bush is an anomoly. Let's be sure we DO keep in mind we are also at war.

Between the excessive atypical spending of Bush, and the uber-liberal policies of Obama, I think one good thing comes out of this...

The end of an era and the end of a trend away from conservative thinking which is about 10 years old right now. Obama will not be re-elected, at least, not if the elections were held today. That would be a good thing to be sure. What the republicans are going to have to do, however, in order to have a fighting chance is reign in a fantastic new leader who is a strong conservative. Something we haven't seen for too long now. I think even if the democrats want to have a chance, the blue dogs will have to rise up past the progressives and quash them smartly.

There is no question that whoever ultimately rules the roost (Obama's not even a shoe-in for the nomination necessarily), we are absolutely going to HAVE TO reign in spending. There is no other way around that. As for paying for the spending that we've already done? The only way we can ever hope to right that is through massive economic growth, and the current policies of the current administration are unfortunately so far removed from that possibility that we are just going to have to wait it out. In the interim, I highly doubt that Obama can be convinced that his economic course is wrong.

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eovery 21 months ago

I know I can't survive very long by living off credit. I think the same principle applies to the government. Debt eats you up.

Keep on hubbing!

Texasbeta 21 months ago

Once again we have the issue of people who's knowledge of economics is pinned down by what they can gather on the internet, without ever actually being taught the intricacies of a global economic system. Once again we have people attack others for being from the academic society. You cannot base a country's economic policy based upon whether you personally can do it with your credit or checking accounts. It doesn't work like that and thinking it does is juvenile. Tell me, after all of your cutting and pasting, without deficit spending during an economic recession, how do you increase consumer spending? Where does the flow of money come from during a recession without deficit spending? How do you get out of a recession? Would you go the Hayek or Friedman way? Are you a monetarist? Do you know what that is?

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John T. Hub Author 21 months ago

I don't normally respond to belligerent commentors, but I will have to stoop down to that level just this once, to address a normal liberal attack against those who are on the right. This is the attack taken against me by texasbeta, namely accusing the right of being uneducated. Firstly, I recieved my undergraduate in political science and did many research papers. I keep up to date with the latest news using JSTOR and EBSCO (do you know what those even are?). I am working on my masters and doctorate concurrently so when you have a PhD you can come bring your condescending comments and embarass me then for the lack of my education.

As to your reference to my quotations. Yes I do use quotations. Let me teach you a little bit about doing research. I used two types of sources. The first type of source is called a primary source. A primary source is considered an authoritative reference to the subject at hand. In my hub that would be my quotation of the CBO. Many articles in the literature quote the CBO so I felt quite secure in quoting an authority that many political scientist also quote.

The second type of source I used was a secondary source. A secondary source is a source that has commented on a primary source. An example of this would be my quotation from the heritage foundation. This is a source that has commented on deficit spending and if you go to the article you can find their links to the primary sources.

Consider this a free lesson in research from me to you. If you have any more questions feel free to let me know and I can help you out.

*Sorry I have been off hub for so long my computer has a wicked bad virus and we are still trying to fix this problem. I might be MIA for several days :(

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